Graphic: The Disability Rights and Independent Living Movement

Karen Topp Goodwyn

Audio transcript: On the Physically Disabled Studentsí Program at UC Berkeley and the importance of role modeling
Date: February 11, 1997
Interviewer: Mary Lou Breslin

Note: Transcripts have been lightly edited; therefore there may be slight discrepancies with audio clips.


Goodwyn:
When I first knew, as I knew it then, the PDSP—the Physically Disabled Students' Program—it was behind Top Dog. You had to go in the back, up a long ramp that went across the width of the building, with a persimmon tree at the end [chuckles]. Zona Roberts used to engineer hot lunches for people who stopped by every day, and it was just kind of like a social club.

Breslin:
Chimichangas were a favorite.

Goodwyn:
Yes. Kind of like a social club and it was very informal and it looked absolutely hideous. It was dirty, run down, and really awful looking. But there were some really good times. One of the important things that I learned from the PDSP crew was that no amount of counseling could compensate for good peer support and good peer role models. All I had to worry about was giving people a general direction and the tools to get there. But the counseling was taken care of by peers, role models who had preceded them in trying to accomplish things. It was really wonderful to see that work. That was probably the most important thing that happened at PDSP: the role modeling that went on.

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